milan
Since we speak of karma on the one thread, something has been nagging at the back of my mind that it's almost stupid really.In the weeks leading up to the Dem's convention (sorry, this is nothing to do with politics but unfortunately it's one example I could use right at this moment which happens to be political) - there was a fundamentalist Christian reporter who was calling for all Christians to pray for rain, so that Obama would be flooded out of the stadium on the night he was to give his speech. I'll see if I can dig up his plea on YouTube.At the time I thought, what nonsense. Whatever God we believe in, He or She has better things to do, and your prayers could surely be put to much better use.Well, when I started hearing about how Gustav was going to hit New Orleans on the same day the Republican convention was to start, I got this creepy little chill down my spine and instantly remembered that man who was praying for flooding rain.In my spiritual path, as in many, there are sayings and beliefs about being careful what you wish for or pray for. There are also words of wisdom that say what you send out will return to you (I address this to Freogirl and mimpimanis).I'm not saying this is exactly the case here, could be a fluke, nor am I in any way saying that anyone deserves the devastation that this hurricane will bring. I wish we could all pray hard enough to just make that damn thing go away or fizzle out or anything!.But when "karma' is mentioned on this Forum, this sure is ironic.(this is at my expense as I'm pro Rep.party but I just have to play fair by showing this and just being objective of the whole thing).Let me get that youtube clip:[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohxdvio9n2Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohxdvio9n2Q[/url]
tintin
Yes, Milan, good point. I would add that, for the believers, this could be interpreted as either God being pissed-off at the gall of one of his (or her) lowly creatures, or that in his/her heart, God is a Democrat. :lol:
tintin
As an answer to this same fool, let me add this video :lol: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiR2jHmC0Rk&watch_response[/url]
milan
Sad to say that on both parties, there are scums.But reciprocating to your video, here's another but this time by a Democrat. He's the head of DNC.[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78[/url] :)
Sanurian
Maybe [b]God(s)[/b] just started the ball rolling a very long time ago and that was that. We never really know, do we?Ever considered an infinity of parallel universes? Still struggling with concepts like the Big Bang, the Big Shrink, Steady-State, etc? I think most "normal" people can't get a handle on it, too. Even Einstein was confused for a while.One of the biggest scientific questions of all time goes something like this:[i]How does your body know it's you?[/i]Think about it...you might score a Nobel prize with the answer(s).Notions of spooky omnipotent guys or gals up in the sky, somewhere, watching everything you do, day and night, are at least quaint. And why doesn't god have a website, or at least a handphone? Hmmm... :oops:
Bert Vierstra
How does your body know it's you?[/quote]It doesn't. It clueless without me (Nobel Prize 1)The question assumes body and mind are two, while they are one (Nobel Prize 2)We were introduced at birth (Nobel prize 3)Huh? What body? (Nobel prize 4)Huh? What mind? (Nobel prize 5)[size=7]Today I am sad. I passed 3000 posts today, and nobody noticed. You are all banned for one day.[/size]
tintin
Deep stuff Sanurian, the most disturbing being "why doesn't God have a website?" This should be food for thoughts for the rest of the day. :?
SG
Deep stuff Sanurian, the most disturbing being "why doesn't God have a website?" This should be food for thoughts for the rest of the day. :?[/quote]He has a [url=http://www.holylandexperience.com/]Theme Park[/url] at least
Sanurian
...It doesn't. It clueless without me...[/quote]You sure about that?Who and what is "me" then? (I mean "you".)How do all the atoms, molecules, a length of DNA that stretches to the Moon and back constantly "re-group", if that's what happens and "remember" us all the time, until something decides to turn it off? I'm not sure about you, but I still think of "chemicals" as basically innate. Maybe they're not.It took a while for people to figure out how DNA, which to all intents and purposes doesn't do all that much apart from replicating itself, passes on its "blueprint" information to our cells. The "answer" was RNA. It almost seems like bodies are mere receptacles for DNA, not the other way around.Why so much DNA and so few answers? All part of the mystery and miracle of Life. :D
Bert Vierstra
I think its time for the philosophy / science forumsigh...Can we keep it to things we can see, the practical approach?
Sanurian
[b]SG[/b], ([i]Hi there[/i])...Deep stuff Sanurian, the most disturbing being "why doesn't God have a website?" This should be food for thoughts for the rest of the day...[/quote]Yeah, well why not?I'm buggered if I can understand why various manifestations of [i]Supreme Beings[/i] chose places like Bethlehem, Mecca and all the rest, so long ago, to do what, exactly? Create confusion, perhaps. Corner some market for apples and dades, perhaps?Maybe just "Karma". :lol:
Sanurian
A great idea, [b]Bert[/b]...Can we keep it to things we can see, the practical approach?...[/quote]You mean by that, I presume, like the Balinese?The "seen" and "unseen" stuff? ([i]Sikala[/i] and [i]Niskala[/i].)Yes, that makes a lot of sense, too.Historically, "Religion" has always been a good business for someone or other. Can't see that much has changed in the 21st Century. :shock:
Jimbo
Today I am sad. I passed 3000 posts today, and nobody noticed. You are all banned for one day.[/quote]I did Bert but I thought you were going to come up with a post to match......You did not :D I know I am now banned for mor than one day :D It does show you however how much people look at the bottom lines :D
SG
Historically, "Religion" has always been a good business for someone or other. Can't see that much has changed in the 21st Century.[/quote]Yep, go to the Islamic Museum in KL and look at the size of the prophet's house in Medina. Like many many prophets before and after, having a direct line to the lord pays mighty dividends.Re: the lord's website..yes I agree, as we've become more and more educated the lord seems to have become shyer and shyer until eventually it simply comes down to trusting one's faith. Oh, and those who still seem to have direct line that needs lubricating with gifts and money.....
milan
Congrats, Bert, for the 3000 posts you've surpassed. I didn't notice either as what Jim says, evidently none of us look to the lower side of the page. Back on topic, Sanurian, I'm lost.
